Monday, December 29, 2014

A new female character

I'm working in a new NPC. Before going on her (doing clothes and animations), I need your comments about how to improve her look.


As you can see, she's smaller than Beth, and has a darker skin.

I won't be doing nothing while waiting for your opinions. I still have a big bug to fix, hehehe.

PS. I've re-done some changes following Kyrieru's tip. Does she look better now? I've also redone some changes in the hips. How does it look now? Any preference?



 PS. I've uploaded a new version (v0.401) in order to fix a couple of bugs. I've also added a new feature. You'll see it when Beth walks, hehehe.

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  1. Well, the main problem I see is that her style is much different from Beth's. It leans more towards realistic facial features, and looks a lot better, in my opinion. Good in the sense that it looks better, but bad in the sense that it's inconsistent.

    In terms of shadows, I'd avoid shading near the edges like you did on the legs. It gives it a kind of flat look, whereas shading near the middle like you did with the torso makes it look more 3 dimensional

    Other than that, it's mostly anatomy related stuff For example, where her neck connects to the body, it would normally taper out a lot more.

    in places where you have lines representing stuff like the rib cage, I'd taper the lines a bit, to make it look a little more natural. (In fact, there should probably be more tapering in general, that is, thinning them out at the ends.)

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    1. For me looking better is more important than consistency. But I could fix it redoing Beth's face as you suggested. I think I'm improving my skills very little by little, but if I had to mantain the consistence with my first works, it would be a waste.

      About shadows, I've re-done them, and taped some lines. About neck, my english is a bit limited, so I don't understood it right.

      Anyway, thanks a lot for your tips. You know your comments are always welcame and helpful.

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    2. No, don't change Beth, I like how she looks, I prefer that art style

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    3. Beth has the original "Monster high" look. I used it as a kind of fetish I have: I don't know why but I think it's sexy. It's good to find that more people share my ultra-rare fetish, hahaha. Anyway, Kyrieru has proved that there's a middle point between manga and MH look.

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    4. Because it is sexy, though she lacks the high heels, which makes me very sad.

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  2. Also, here's some suggestions for Beth's face, keeping with the western style.
    http://i.gyazo.com/8f6ea226e922a0d78e5270e14d8be869.gif

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    1. New faces look awesome. But making the changes will carry on much more work, such as redoing expressions and animations. I'll think deeply about the invest of time.

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    2. Well, there are a lot of players who won't even give certain games a chance if they don't find the protagonist appealing. Especially in an H-game, where the content is very much based on the character's appearance, but even in normal games, the protagonist's graphics are generally the most important, and the most polished. A week or two of work on a protagonist can make all the difference.

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  3. I was going to post a comment that I thought would be really helpful, but after reading Kyrieru's awesome comment and help, I just decided to leave it alone.
    I think you're in good hands, HNyarly :)

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  4. My opinion if she is gonna be a warrior...then maybe a little bit more muscle :)
    Keep up the good Work!

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    1. She's a rogue, hehehe.
      It's part of the story.
      ;-)

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  5. hip seems a bit high up, almost looks like she is wearing skin colored diapers. I would recommend pulling the hip/butt down and rounding it out a bit

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  6. :o :o I just hope some scissoring action here :o :P
    thanks for this

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  7. new character looks great.

    RE the rat problem. it appears to be when the rats kill you the one that did it is then stuck in place but it returns to normal after you load a saved game.

    I still get the white screen on occaison either when i've been by the slime cave/elf and head down the path towards the guard or when i'm going the other way.

    is it possable to raise sluttyness over 62 and get beth topless yet?

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    1. Rat bug fixed, thanks to your report.
      :D
      I still have to fix the white screen.

      And not sure about the maximum sluttyness.

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  8. Maybe it's because she's naked, but I don't feel that the new girl has the same physical appeal as Beth. I like boobs and curves, which the new girl has I guess, but not as much as Beth. Maybe I will like her more if she was wearing an outfit?
    Her face expression looks right for a rogue. She looks good so far.

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    1. New girl is supposed to be a bit younger than Beth, tha's why she doesn't have so much curves as Beth.
      As soon as I consider the feedback process finished, I'll make her outfit.
      ;-)

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  9. She's still very angular. She really does look like a doll; I actually think the muscles helped her look more like a person, but the shading would need to smooth out those lines. Right now, she's like a creepy Native American mini-Barbie w/o curves. O_o Maybe if her face were a little bigger, it would be easier to make her look more similar to Beth?

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    1. Check v0.401 and you'll find something you asked for, hehehe.
      :p

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    2. Nice! The way her hair moves is really good; fluid without looking too different from the rest of the animations. It seems like it goes a little high, though, almost like she's running. I can't complain too much though--you gave me a New Year's present! XD

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    3. And I like the shape-changes to the new character, by the way. When I look closely at the picture, I think her face matches well enough to the art style you have going with Beth and the other characters so far. That's one creepy smile!

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    4. I know, I have a lot to say tonight! Anyway, after playing for a while, I think the problem with her hair isn't how it moves--it has great motion. But if you could rotate it down, so that rather than streaming behind her, it bounced hanging down behind her, it would look much more natural.

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    5. Done and uploading changes
      ;-)

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    6. Ia! Ia! Nyarly fthagn! How did you ever get Azathoth to give you enough vacation time to work on this!? ;)

      P.S. I think I love you. Or at least your game. :D

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  10. Snx 4 new version, Nyarly. U ma # 1 g developer.
    (Hruma)

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  11. Is the pig currently in this version? if so then after you've saved he is no longer near the wagon. and what does the book do? based on the marking it should be for the pig trader in order to have an h event correct? other than that i didn't find any glitches and perhaps the pig was intentional i'm not sure.

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    1. The pig is not ready yet. I need to do quests and dialogues for it.

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  12. Awesome update. However at this moment:

    1) Well..it is not a bug, but looks very interesting. If you know what I mean. http://imageshack.com/a/img673/2593/o2IPl8.png

    2) I am not sure if it should be like this, but this Slime has not got any health and yet walks around/attacks as if it is no big deal. http://imageshack.com/a/img910/3636/zXYGlD.png

    3) It is also possible to find the keys, before the wizard even ask Beth to find them.

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    1. There's a second health bar, maybe there's another slime hidden behind it.

      The key is there prior to being asked, since realism is what's being aimed for it isn't going to be "poofed" there once you're asked to find it. Haha.

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    2. 1) Do you mean about the hair? Anyway, fixed.
      2) No idea about what happened. :S
      3) Yes. It makes sense. You can find an item before knowing what it is for.

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    3. I have a similar problem... Fighting the rats, if I lose, but a rat is stunned, when I go back to the area, the rat is still stunned. It never recovers. And this rat had a full health bar, but could not be hit, nor did it move.
      https://picasaweb.google.com/105737258020042008563/January22015#6099652713520831938
      https://picasaweb.google.com/105737258020042008563/January22015#6099652714400415698

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    4. 2) Strangely enough, I have not encounter the thing with the Slime at the moment anymore. Very strange. What could have caused it?

      3) Agree. It is way more realistic if the keys were already there.

      I am not sure about this, but you can move to the right next to the music off/on button. http://imageshack.com/a/img540/2905/1zUgDW.png Or is just nitpicking by me? Sorry.

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    5. @Cthulhu.rex
      I can't see the images. :S
      About the rats, are you using v0.402, right? I think I fixed it yet.

      @Arthgon
      2) No idea
      And I should fix that button xD

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    6. Not sure if it was 0.402 or not, now that I think about it. May have been the older version!

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  13. Honestly I like the look of Beth as she is now...but an extra character to play would be fun.l

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  14. Bear weak against kicks. Just walk into his sprite (top or bottom, with wind rune) and kick without stopping.
    Good ferret may reduce the rest time before the jump (to make it more dangerous)?
    The plant is definitely cool.
    (Hruma)

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    1. Well... there two skills enemies have.
      - Ferrets have "pouncing" attck.
      - Lizard has "fast recovery": it means that it recovers after a hit, with no rest time.

      I can make a harder enemy mixing both skills, hehehe.

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    2. Also: The ant is really tough--which is kind of nice. Kicks are just too powerful; if they, say, only did damage when she was kicking, and not for the "go back to standing" animation, and there were a cool-down period before she could kick again, it would probably work better. As it is, the poor lizard has no chance; you just stand there and kick him into the wall and he never has a chance. Kick goes farther than most weapons; the lizard and the slime could hurt me when I used the axe or knife, but never with the kicks. Maybe if her leg could be injured while she was kicking, too? I dunno... Right now it's not as important, but when the game is nearing completion, you should really balance that out. Otherwise, how would anybody, say, find the gnome? You have to *let* the rats kill you now, because they can't survive the Almighty Kick. :P

      Again, though... those ants. Yeeeesh! :)

      Maybe if everything didn't just run straight toward you? If ants circled behind? Less damage per bite, but they could swarm you then. If foes closed, attacked quickly, then backed away? I know, more work for youuuu!! ;)

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    3. What about fatigue that is causing this cool-down period instead of getting her leg injured?

      The small ants has indeed the tendency to move very very close and attacking her heels. There is almost no way to lose them. You will lose too much health. If you know what I mean. I DO love them though.

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    4. Kick cooldown sounds good.
      :-)

      Also, kick is supposed to be an standard Attack. But you can't use it in all cases. The main problem of kick compared with the weapons is the damage. Kick deals less damage than the weapons, so for high level enemies, you can't bypass its armour just kicking. But, if you increase enough your level, you can even kill bosses just kicking them.

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    5. I kick everything to death, always.
      It's easier than having to switch weapons all the time.
      I am lazy, but I don't mind spending the time to slowly kick an ant queen to death.
      But, as you say, if kicks had a cool down I would probably switch to weapons if they're faster.

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  15. Anyone else find the game harder than before? Or may be because I haven't played in a while.

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    1. New enemies are a bit harder. Not so older ones.

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  16. Okay I would analyze the new drawing up to a point of writing an essay about it but unfortunatly I am really busy so I have to summarize very shortly.
    It looks much more realistic than Beth And I am pro-realistic.So very good for that.
    Shoulder-hip ratio is important to make your character feminen or masculen a woman figur should have wider hips and narrower shoulders so keep that in mind.
    The girl looks like she is a doll with two key part top and bottom.Reason why is the waist.There is a lack of unity because there is no significant waist and top part is much much thinner then top.You need a smooth passway there.I do not like Beth's waist eighter but it looks better than the new girls.Allright this is my review so far I might draw a few things to visualize my points but I am really really busy so cant promise that.You are doing great hnyarly keep up the good work

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    1. I've made some changes in the hips.
      About shoulders, I like as she's now.

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    2. For the body,as for the last one looks wonderful,tehre would be changes I would do but that would be ME and any other big change from this point would be interfering with your style and I wouldn't want that.
      But I must say that now entire body is united the neck and head are just not working they are not tied to body as they should.I finally have a bit of free time and I will try to draw something that can help you with that. But still improvement is amazing I am vastly impressed.

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  17. wanted to let you know of this issue. about 2 or 3 times i have saved and when i played again my game save was gone. the last time this happened i was already level 7 or so since i had been farming in the cave for a while. got to the witch's house and saved. went towards the bridge and the game crashed on me. started the game back up and my game save was gone. would having older saves from the older versions of the game cause this? and if so were do i go do delete the older saves?

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    1. I think it's about old saves.

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    2. would you know where those saves are located?

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    3. No, it's a thing. My saves also don't get committed to disc sometimes. Even if I don't mess with savegame. Or the save ruins older saves.

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    4. I've noticed that even if I save over the older game saves it does the same thing. I had saved a game and then it crashed. when I loaded the game back up the save was gone. I am running windows 8 but I set the compatibility to windows 7 for the game. the issue still happens. I'm going to try setting the compatibility windows xp and trying again.

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    5. Your saves are located in C:\Users\%NAME%\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\%RANDOMSTUFF%\localhost. Delete it. But the problem remains.

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    6. If there's another cause for corrupting saved games (other than editing the saved files) please let me know.

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    7. Well, yes there is. At some point I noticed that, although saves are present in the game, file with saves wasn't getting changed (it is frozen forever). That's the first problem. Since then my game was a lost cause (I concluded that this happens even if you play it fair) so I edited wolfrespawn, restarted and played, my saves were accessible while in game, but sometimes they turned not loadable, corrupted. Ofc, on game restart, everything new was gone. Also, before I start a new game I delete old save file, so that's got nothing to do with it.

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    8. Try deleting cookies and cache by your web explorer.

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    9. I have never played game via browser, so what cookies? I need rest of my cookies, so I can't wipe them indiscriminately. 0.401/0.402 MG are the only I have played.

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    10. The exe is a compiled Flash, and Flash uses the shared objects as they were cookies.

      Anyway, have you tried deleting yourself the folder where the saves are?

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    11. Only the SOL file.

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    12. I think it's because SOL's maximum size is 100KB by default. I have changed it here http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html, but it's still not working. Only two slots at the time.

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  18. Great fixes! There are only funny effect with the hair with these ones http://imageshack.com/a/img911/369/4PhkuN.png, http://imageshack.com/a/img673/4953/uxIqJI.png and http://imageshack.com/a/img538/6444/3oILp7.png

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    1. Sorry, about that it looked that way. Here is a much better view of Beth playing with the Gnome. http://imageshack.com/a/img540/7008/DZHiQ9.png

      PS: Oops: I accidentally removed the older version of the image. Sorry about that.

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    2. Nice snapshot, hehehe.
      About the hair funny effect, I think if fixed them all in v0.402, right?

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    3. I was playing the latest version (v4.02) and started over again. The funny hair effect with the Slime Boss IS fixed though.

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  19. I'm wondering why save game is not loadable after I change the amount of gold in inventory, what did you do? Also changing sexy, slut, and SLUT does no effect, and I as hoping to get her to swallow elf's juice.

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  20. what is the most sluttyness that she can have

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  21. @Laki
    H Nyarly implemented a very long time ago some kind of method that prevents cheating via editing the save. It's not perfect but anything that changes the total gold value will make the save unusable. I think it's some kind of hash data so trying to alter it is extremely difficult. I know the value is affected by the items that you have but I'm not sure what else is involved.

    My recommendation is wait. Eventually you will be able to get her to the point you want to. There are a few cheats that you can do but most of those are just changing the respawn timers of mobs and those will have no real effect if you alter them.

    @Anon
    Highest I've seen is just over 80.

    --neodragon

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    1. @neodragon, how do you get it above 80? Here's what I've done so far:
      - Encounter with the gnome x3 (he left a note)
      - HJ elf trader x 4
      - BJ elf trader x 4, cum outside
      - BJ elf trader x 4, cum in mouth
      - die to slime boss x 4
      - die to pink wolf

      Even with horny 100/100 it still only hits like 68 for me. What am I missing? Is there a way to respawn the pink wolf to finish out his encounter table? Is there some other way to get the other 'bosses' to behave to increase sluttyness?

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    2. Yes, you have to change wolfs respawn to let's say 10 and then he fucks you and fucks you senseless. With that, at full horny, sluttyness is 81 I think and you can remove bra, but you can't swallow because your horny drops to 75 and that's 78 sluttyness.
      To change save game, you have to google, I shall not help you.
      P.S.
      Don't change anything else, you'll fuck up.

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    3. The above encounters along with the hacked pink wolf respawn will get you to 70 base sluttyness (80 at full horny). There is a remaining 2 base sluttyness gained from defeating the slime boss and making out with the elf girl - I was trying to keep the slime boss alive to see if behavior was different at 80 sluttyness. Max achievable sluttyness is 82 at 100/100 horny in this version. Without the wolf boss hack, it's 72.

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    4. I've spent all day messing around with the savegames and the only thing I can't figure out is how Hnyarly is checksumming the saves. If I could just figure out that part I could make a save that starts with maxed sluttyness to see what Beth does differently!

      ...Mostly I just want to see if she'll swallow ;)

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    5. Yes, she does when sluttyness is over 80.
      ;-)

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    6. Is it possible (even through savegame tweaking) to get 73 base sluttyness in this version of the game (so, 80 at 75/100 horny)?

      I even tried enabling the pig trader but apparenly he's still considered a "good looking humanoid" because 'interacting' with him doesn't increase sluttyness... :(

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    7. Hehehe, you found it, right? Well done.
      He's hidden because he's not finished yet. I have to program his behaviour and quests.

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    8. I've gotten her to swallow at 40 sluttyness on the elf trader should that be?

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    9. It's a bit different over 80.

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    10. The number of hours I've spent with a memory editor and save file editor open, playing through possibilities, scumming save files... just trying to find some way to get that one last point of sluttyness. So much fun trying to find some kind of secret :)

      That *one* little point has made me spend more time playing SR than I've spent on AAA titles. I can't decide if you made the tables that way on purpose just to tease us, or if it's a fortunate accident.

      Either way, I love this game and I'm _so_ looking forward to the next update!

      [Also if you could share how the save file checksum is calculated that'd be great too ;-) hehe]

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    11. I feel honored and happy. If someone spends so much time editing my saves must be because he likes a lot my game. :)
      Anyway, I'm thinking about adding a *hidden* version of the ent (just as I did with the pig trader) as reward for your effort.

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  22. Thank you for your answer. Well, if its hashed, then I can't do much but transfer items from seller to Beth, right? My problem is mainly so few saves I can get. The way things are now, I have to play for a really long time to get to the saving worth point.
    I figured out long ago that changes in respawn timers can do wonders, especially the one regarding a certain boss where it is initially zero ;).

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  23. H Nyarly is the ent in the game yet I have been looking and can't find it. Btw love this update drop system is great keep up the good work.

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    1. It's finished but I haven't added it to the game. I need to do quest for it.

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  24. were are the old man's key? i can't find them

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    1. In bushes. near the home of wizard. Yes seeker shall find.
      (Hruma)

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  25. The current version only saves to the first two slots, the other slots are lost on reload.

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    1. I can load from all slots. Does anyone else have the same problem?

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    2. Tengo el mismo problema, señorita.
      (Hruma)

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    3. I also had this problem. Got all the way to level 9 and then lost the save :(

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    4. Yeah the same problem here :/ might be something on our end though idk.. XD

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    5. It's weird... I've asked other players and they didn't seem to have that problem.

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    6. first 2 slots are there after game crashes rest disappear for me

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  26. can you use a zip file I cant get it to work on my computer

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    1. Great
      :-)

      Anyway, if more people prefer it, I can upload ZIP instead of RAR files.

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    2. What about both ZIP and RAR?

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  28. Can you include in rar-file with game txt-file with change-log?

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  29. Oh, and I'm sure you either know this or everybody else has figured it out too, but... After you get the "lost my ring" quest, if you keep killing the lizard, he keeps dropping rings every time you beat him. It's a pretty good way to farm gold... but you might want to take it out of the finished version. :)

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    1. Is it still happening in v0.402?

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    2. Odd. That is because I am playing the latest version (v0.402) and I have not encountered this problem with the rings anymore. (awesome job) Could there be a possibility that you are using an older version?

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  30. I get "The application “Sex Realm” can’t be opened." I'm on a a macbook, is it a problem for anyone else or just me?

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    1. Make sure you have flash installed. I know a while ago Apple had a bit of a fit and uninstalled flash in an update for all macs. If flash is installed make sure you are not using the exe version.

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    2. I've already told Hnyarly 'bout this. The Mac version hasn't really been working (ever tbh) since it only just opens then closes immediately ;d

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    3. Too bad I don't have a Mac to test it.
      :(

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  31. hey is the pig guy in the game yet and how do you get across the birdge

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    1. Guardian. Make his happy.

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  32. just have yourself a wee gander at the above comments and you should be able to figure it out

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  33. Just wondering something; how many times should the Wind Rune appear behind the tree trunk? http://imageshack.com/a/img538/2918/sgCEOh.png

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    1. Every time, when u load the game.
      (Hruma)

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  34. Of the new rogue pics, I like the 3rd from the left the most, not because I think her shape is the most attractive, but because I think her hips look the most like a girl younger than Beth.

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  35. number 3 is ok! :)

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  36. y, number 3 is the best

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